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Pace
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Amenities
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About

Holes 18
Type Semi-Private
Par 72
Length 7005 yards
Slope 149
Rating 75.0

Editor's Note: Course closed for business in 2016.

Course Details

Year Built 2001
Golf Season Year round
Architect Pete Dye (2001) Fred Couples (2001) Perry Dye (2001)

Rentals/Services

Carts Yes
Clubs Yes
GPS Yes

Practice/Instruction

Driving Range Yes
Bunker Yes
Teaching Pro Yes
Pitching/Chipping Area Yes
Putting Green Yes

Policies

Credit Cards Accepted VISA, MasterCard Welcomed
Metal Spikes Allowed No
Fivesomes Allowed No
Single Allowed No
Dress code Men: Collared Shirt, Bermuda-length shorts or golf pants; No denim and no tee shirts; Women: Collared Shirt, Bermuda-length shorts, skirts or golf pants; No denim and no tee shirts.

Food & Beverage

Bar, Grill

Available Facilities

Clubhouse, Banquet Facilities, Locker Rooms

Reviews

2.1
229 Reviews (229)
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Reviews 2
Handicap 10-14
Skill Intermediate
Plays Once a week
2.0
Verified Purchaser
First Time Playing

Worth the $22 but no more than.

The shadow course is in poor shape. The grass is dry and every lie is hard pan. Course needs watering. Sky course is weel kept but more expensive. A local resident stated that there is no money & they were trying to sell the Shadow course for real estate. Looks like they are maintaining only the one course which is the skycourse.

Conditions Poor
Value Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Good
Difficulty Extremely Challenging
Played On
Reviews 1
Handicap 10-14
Skill Advanced
Plays Once a week
1.0
Verified Purchaser
Previously Played

Fairways are all burnt grass

Greens are nice, but tee boxes are full of insect infestation and there is no grass on the fairways. All the grass is burned out. So every fairway shot is like hitting off of hard-pan.

Conditions Poor
Value Poor
Friendliness Average
Pace Good
Difficulty Extremely Challenging
Played On
Reviews 1
Handicap 15-19
Skill Intermediate
Plays Once a month
1.0
Verified Purchaser
Previously Played

Terrible condition!

The course is in terrible condition except for the greens. It's like they only water and mow the greens, fairways and tee boxes look like the front yard of a bank owned home.

Conditions Poor
Value Poor
Friendliness Average
Pace Excellent
Difficulty Extremely Challenging
Played On
Reviews 1
Handicap 5-9
Skill Advanced
Plays Once a week
1.0
Verified Purchaser
First Time Playing

The Shadow Course needs to be watered.

I live in Venice Beach and unfortunately the beach outside of my home has more grass than the Shadow Course. It seems like the course had not been watered in months. What was so frustrating about my round here is that when you hit the fairways you are instantly penalized by having to hit off of hard pan. Pitching and chipping near the greens was impossible because of the lack of grass. The only way to score is to hit bump and runs even though this course is the furthest thing from a links course. I would not play here again no matter the deal.

Conditions Poor
Value Poor
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Difficulty Extremely Challenging
Played On
Reviews 1
Handicap 10-14
Skill Advanced
Plays Once a week
I Recommend This Course
3.0
Verified Purchaser
Previously Played

Fairway maintain need

Challenge course and greens are nice, but the fairways need maintain.

Conditions Poor
Value Average
Friendliness Average
Pace Excellent
Difficulty Extremely Challenging
Played On
Reviews 6
Skill Intermediate
Plays A few times a week
1.0
Verified Purchaser
Previously Played

They should close down the shadow course or give back the money...

The shadow course is in such bad shape all the tee boxes are just in such horrible shape. And the sand bunkers are not sand bunkers they should be called something else or take them OUT. The fair ways are DEAD they need to stop charging and close it or give back my money.

Conditions Poor
Value Poor
Friendliness Average
Pace Good
Difficulty Moderate
Played On
Reviews 3
Handicap 5-9
Skill Advanced
Plays A few times a week
2.0
Verified Purchaser
First Time Playing

It is a shame what this course has become, needs a lot of maintance

I was looking forward to playing a "Pete Dye" course.
When I arrived at the facility I quickly released this place is out of money. the only thing on the shadow course that gets water are the T-box and greens, fairways are dead and hard. the driving range is like hitting balls out into the desert and balls are old and worn out!
The Sky course gets a bit more attention, mostly green and the greens are fair to good. lots of weeds and un-maintained areas abound.
I think the condition of this course reflect the lack of costumers and the economy?
THe clubhouse is nice.
At this point I won't be returning any time soon, lets hope they clean up this place soon. The layout and the scenery on this course is fantastic, It just needs maintenance!

Conditions Poor
Value Poor
Friendliness Average
Pace Average
Difficulty Extremely Challenging
Played On
Reviews 5
Handicap 0-4
Skill Advanced
Plays Once a week
1.0
Verified Purchaser
Previously Played

Tough to play

Tees and greens are ok. Fairways and bunkers are awful. Don't spend the money unless you have nothing else to do. Play the sky course and pay a little extra

Conditions Poor
Value Poor
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Good
Difficulty Extremely Challenging
Played On
Reviews 1
Handicap 10-14
Skill Advanced
Plays A few times a week
I Recommend This Course
4.0
Verified Purchaser
Previously Played

Dry and fast but a nice challenge.

Maintenance of the fairways needs to improve but overall a nice course. Dry and golden fairways with greens in good condition make this a nice change from the typical park style course. Design features and beautiful scenery make this a course to come back to. Great value with GolfNow deal.

Conditions Poor
Value Excellent
Friendliness Average
Pace Excellent
Difficulty Moderate
Played On
Reviews 1
Handicap 10-14
Skill Intermediate
Plays A few times a week
I Recommend This Course
2.0
Verified Purchaser
Previously Played

Links style course surrounded by mountains.

The course is in poor condition due to lack of water. They use all the water on the sky course which is lush and green. The fairways on the Shadow course are basically dead grass and dirt. Accuracy in a must on this course as errant shots are gone into chaparral. The sand traps are horrible as they play like a cart path. No sand and no fluff, just hard as a rock. And the greens are basically diabolical. Fast and difficult to read with extensive undulation. The worst feature was music being played on the practice range from a horrible speaker. Had to fee the area before I properly warmed up because the racket was causing brain damage. Would play it again after some rain.

Conditions Poor
Value Average
Friendliness Average
Pace Excellent
Difficulty Extremely Challenging
Played On
Reviews 21
Handicap 5-9
Skill Advanced
Plays Once a month
1.0
Verified Purchaser
First Time Playing

Cow pasture

The course was in very poor shape. Looked like they have not watered or taken care of this course in months. Could be a very beautiful and challenging course, but I have seen farm land that was in better shape. I would not recommend this course to anyone. I was very disappointed....

Conditions Poor
Value Poor
Friendliness Average
Pace Excellent
Difficulty Extremely Challenging
Played On
Reviews 1
Handicap 15-19
Skill Intermediate
Plays Once a week
2.0
Verified Purchaser
Previously Played

This course needs some maintenance

Nice price and value, I guess. But the fairways and bunkers need a lot of work. It really is a nice layout; and you can tell it's a nice course; but the conditions need to be improved. Most fairways were like hitting off hard pan, very light grass or dirt/sand basically. The tee boxes were not in great shape either.

Conditions Poor
Value Average
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Difficulty Moderate
Played On
Reviews 1
Handicap 10-14
Skill Intermediate
Plays Once a week
2.0
Verified Purchaser
First Time Playing

Fairways are terrible

This course would be great if the fairways had any turf. It was like hitting off the cart path on most shots. The greens are a little sketchy but not bad. There are a number of blind shots. It would be helpful if they provided a course layout. However, I am not coming back until they have done something about the fairways.(

Conditions Poor
Value Average
Friendliness Average
Pace Good
Difficulty Extremely Challenging
Played On
Reviews 1
Skill Intermediate
Plays A few times a week
1.0
Verified Purchaser
Previously Played

Fairways are in really bad condition

Looks like only the greens get any water, there were weeds everywhere. A nice drive middle of the fairway did not help as the next shot was like hitting off hard dirt.

Conditions Poor
Value Poor
Friendliness Average
Pace Excellent
Difficulty Extremely Challenging
Played On
Reviews 1
Skill Intermediate
Plays Once a month
1.0
Verified Purchaser

Nice design

Course was in TERRIBLE condition. I would not play here again. Weeds in fairways, everything dry, etc.

Conditions Poor
Value Poor
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Good
Difficulty Moderate
Played On
Reviews 3
Handicap 15-19
Skill Intermediate
Plays Once a month
I Recommend This Course
2.0
Verified Purchaser

Challenging course with potential

There was an obvious decision to not water anything but the green area on the Shadows Course while the Sky Course watered fairways as well. That left for many locations of hardpan surfaces to hit off of or having to move your ball to a location that had some dead grass on it.

While the price was terrific, the conditions were not.

Conditions Poor
Value Average
Friendliness Average
Pace Excellent
Difficulty Extremely Challenging
Played On
Reviews 5
Handicap 10-14
Skill Advanced
Plays A few times a week
2.0
Verified Purchaser

Course Is Super Dry

Greens were I'm excellent shape but 95% of the fairways and grass was completely dried out !

Conditions Poor
Value Average
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Difficulty Extremely Challenging
Played On
Reviews 1
Handicap 10-14
Skill Advanced
Plays A few times a week
2.0
Verified Purchaser

This course has been let go completely. Play the other one (Sky).

Even though the price was only $55 the course was not playable. The staff was however cordial and gave a couple of free rounds on the sister course. Still not a fun day

Conditions Poor
Value Average
Friendliness Average
Pace Fair
Difficulty Extremely Challenging
Played On
Reviews 1
Handicap 20-24
Skill Intermediate
Plays Once a week
1.0
Verified Purchaser

Shadow course

The course is in terrible condition. Some of the tee boxes were worse than the rough and there was almost no grass on the fairways. I will never play there again.

Conditions Poor
Value Poor
Friendliness Average
Pace Average
Difficulty Extremely Challenging
Played On
Reviews 1
Skill Intermediate
Plays Once a month
2.0
Verified Purchaser

Great course!

Fairways and greens need some work but the fairways are the worst I have ever played

Conditions Poor
Value Excellent
Friendliness Average
Pace Average
Difficulty Extremely Challenging
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